Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tCUud-0000ZTC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:00 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 42FA8669 ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:00:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:48:43 -0500 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: M.Helsem To: Lojban List In-Reply-To: <199511030328.WAA16819@locke.ccil.org> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at Nov 2, 95 10:21:02 pm Content-Length: 995 Lines: 30 la xorxes. cusku di'e > I think it's unfair to call [Michael Helsem] a semi-Lojbanist on account > of the very few grammar errors, else nobody can claim to be a Lojbanist. I meant that to group as "semi (Lojban ist)", not "(semi Lojban) ist", meaning that M. H. was and is peripheral to the Lojban community. > The errors in this poem are {i nabo} instead of {i naku}, God knows what that was about. > an incorrect {ku} after a BAI KOhA, That used to be grammatical. > {po'i} instead of {pe'a} (has the meaning of {po'i} changed in time?) Yes; "po'i" was once the start-of-figurative marker, later changed to "pe'a", which later changed to a UI for figurative use. > and a strange use of {je'o} to mean > "recedingly", which I can't understand unless it's an archaic meaning. That was the old "scalar-tensor" tense system, which preceded the Imaginary Journeys tense system. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.