Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tGAYf-0000ZVC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 22:05 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id B158B848 ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:05:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:57:39 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: loglan reform conlangs To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 897 Lines: 21 Lojbab: > A major disadvantage of trying to start from Lojban and build a reform > is that by implication you have to outdo our effort (just as in order to > be credible, the Lojban effort had to outdo the level of detail and > design that JCB provided), or you have to come across as a half-designed > reform-clone by saying "do this and that and the other, and then do like > Lojban for all the rest." I agree completely with all your remarks (which I've not quoted). The approach I personally favour is in fact the "half-designed reform-clone" one, and, as I think I mentioned, I think there are some relatively unschismatic ways of doing it. > The impact that I hope we have most had on the conlang world is that: > thoroughness of design has become a minimum criterion for success. Success by what standard? Attracting more than a dozen followers? Being a respect-worthy conlang? --- And