Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA23851 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:37:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199511300037.TAA23851@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 2B9AF0AE ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:27:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:22:17 -0700 Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: self-descriptions? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Wed Nov 29 19:37:13 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU And: >> >But why is this harder than usage without FA (i.e. in normal >> >x1, x2, x3 ... order)? Me: >> FA-scrambling requires more syllables than normal order, so normal >> order is favored by the syntax. So naturally lazy syllable-hating >> lojbanis will use normal order more often, and be more used to hearing >> it. Listening to language structures you are used to is easier than >> unfamiliar ones, and the normal order will be the most familiar vau ba'a. And: >Sure. I originally asked "Is the difficulty due to anything other than >unfamiliarity?", and the answer seems to be No. And I maintain that will always be so, even if fa-scrambling becomes commonplace. Any particular ordering is bound to be unfamiliar, because there are so many possibilities. ____ Chris Bogart \ / http://www.quetzal.com Boulder, CO \/ cbogart@quetzal.com