Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA23876 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:15:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199511290015.TAA23876@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id E032C6EC ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:57:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:56:13 -0500 Reply-To: Jorge Llambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: self-descriptions? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, jorge@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Tue Nov 28 19:15:15 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU And: > > I agree. I would also prefer that V-initial not be singled out like > > that. > Do we know why it is? A relic of some ancient Brownian predilection? Something to do with the Loglan imperative, I think. > xe xi pa nu = nu xi pa = nu > se nu = nu xi re (= su'uxipa = fa'a'a) > te nu = nu xi ci (= su'uxire = fe'e'e) > ve nu = nu xi vo (= su'uxici = fi'i'i) > xe nu = nu xi mu (= su'uxivo = fo'o'o) > xe xi xa nu = nu xi xa (= su'uximu = fu'u'u) > > i.e. the place structure of nu broda is the same as of nunbroda. > > This would placate me, and since it requires no change to the > current syntax, and but little undoing of existing semantics, > I think I might adopt it. That works for me. {nu} doesn't have defined x2, x3, etc, so it seems perfectly fine to assume that that is what you get upon SE conversion. Jorge