Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tFnS1-0000ZTC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:24 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id E1CDDF2D ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:24:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:21:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Re: TECH: Pitch Accent X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199511150131.UAA28740@cs.columbia.edu> (message from Goran Topic on Wed, 15 Nov 1995 02:27:56 MET) Content-Length: 1341 Lines: 28 >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 02:27:56 MET >From: Goran Topic >X-To: Lojban Listserv >I think, however, that >Vedic Sanskrt has the true tonal accent (Ever heard Rg Veda? I didn't >believe my professor when he told me that Rg Veda is recited rather than >sung. I said, "But I heard melody!". He said, that's just accents. Sama >Veda is Rg Veda in song."). AFAIK. I heard a tape of someone reading a section of the ramayana in Sanskrit (which is classical sanskrit, later than vedic), and it certainly sounded chanted or melodic to me. I'm reminded of the cantillations used in the Bible (partly because I'm in the middle of reading a truly incredible book about all their details and intricacies). They were clearly put in for two purposes: as sentence-structure punctuation marks, and also as melody (you can tell by the way they're arranged and used that both aims are part of their purpose). It also reminds me some of the way the Talmud is often learned. You read it out loud, not with a true "melody", and there are no cantillations, but intonation is very exaggerated, and you use a distinctive sing-song style. It's impossible to miss if you ever hear it; it's not the kind of thing that you can say it's just plain ordinary reading. ~mark