Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tGVFx-0000ZTC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:11 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id F14BFBB6 ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 19:11:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 00:46:09 -0500 Reply-To: Jorge Llambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: lambda and "ka" revisited X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, jorge@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 645 Lines: 19 la kris cusku di'e > mi djuno ledu'u le tsali cu blanu > I know that the sky is blue > mi djuno lejei le tsali cu blanu > I know whether or not the sky is blue > mi djuno leni le tsali cu blanu > I know how true it is that the sky is blue --> how blue the sky is > > I stopped doing this because xorxes convinced me it was wrong; but let's > define it that way, shall we? I wouldn't be against defining them that way ({jei} is already that de facto if not de jure anyway), but I would prefer to forget about {ni} and {jei} altogether. (That definition of {ni} would clash severely with usage though.) Jorge