Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tHSqD-0000ZUC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:48 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 3A2D76DF ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:48:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:46:57 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: lambda and "ka" revisited X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 780 Lines: 18 >* kea and xeu outside NOI or {ka..kei} contexts will yield 100% nonsense > (but be deemed grammatical). Is that right? I can't speak for xe'u, but suspect that it would have meaning. John can answer that one better. There is presently no defined role for ke'a outside of relative clauses, HOWEVER, I CAN think of usages outside of relative clauises that would have a plausible definition consistent with current usage only in relatives. (relative phrases can also use ke'a BTW). For example, one might use "ke'a" in a parenthetical or footnote to refer to that which is being explained. Since any text is possible inside a parenthetical, that assigns a plausible use for any grammatical role of ke'a in the language, thoiugh not in all occurances of that grammar. lojbab