Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA00979 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:54:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199511201954.OAA00979@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id FA39AAB8 ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:40:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:39:26 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Goran on phonology X-To: jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Mon Nov 20 14:54:45 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Actually, Jim, I think you probably do aspirate - indeed more often than not. English mouths just do not prevent aspiration unless trained, and California dialects have plenty of them (I should know). Try "Peter Piper", which is a tongue twister at least in part because it is hard to recover from the aspiration in time to do it again wihtout sounding like you are spluttering. Also compare, say "stick" and "stag" - I definitely aspirate the first, but probably do not the second in normal speech. (You might tell the difference better if you make a single sentence using both words. lojbaba