Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tBKW0-0000ZSC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:42 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 4ED3B62B ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:42:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:34:00 LCL Reply-To: BARRETO%VELAHF@ECCSA.TR.UNISYS.COM Sender: Lojban list From: Paulo Barreto Subject: Re: Phonology Paper Released X-To: lojban%cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu@TRSVR.UniGate1.Unisys.COM To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1018 Lines: 22 > As a result, the Lojban design allows the use of a buffer sound > between consonant combinations which a speaker finds unpronounceable. > This sound may be any non-Lojbanic vowel which is clearly separable > by the listener from the Lojban vowels. Some possibilities are IPA > [I], [+], [U], or even [Y], but there probably is no universally Hmm, I don't think [Y] is acceptable. It's a rounded variant of [i], and the paper expresses that: > Note in particular that Lojban vowels can be either rounded or > unrounded; typically "o" and "u" are rounded and the others are not, > but this is not a requirement; some people round "y" as well. Hence [Y] is not "clearly separable by the listener from the Lojban vowels". The same applies to any vowel sound that differs from Lojban vowels only in roundedness. co'o mi'e paulos. Paulo S. L. M. Barreto -- Software Analyst -- Unisys Brazil Standard disclaimer applies ("I do not speak for Unisys", etc.) e'osai ko sarji la lojban.