Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tHZP6-0000ZUC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:49 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id F6ECE4B5 ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:49:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:37:01 -0500 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: How jai and tu'a work X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK, Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199511182240.RAA08726@locke.ccil.org> from "ucleaar" at Nov 18, 95 09:53:43 pm Content-Length: 713 Lines: 17 la .and. cusku di'e > > tu'a la lojbab. bapli lenu mi'o tavla bau la lojban. > > (some event concerning Lojbab) forces (the event of me-you talk in Lojban) > > My maoste has {tua} = "the bridi implied by". To me a bridi is a du'u > - something that is true or false, not an event in the midst of a network > of interacting forces. I think there is a general confusion in jbobau > selsku between events and propositions. Don't get hung up on the keyword definitions in the lists, which are only mnemonic and not defining. "tu'a " is "le su'u co'e", that's defining. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.