Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tI18Z-0000ZUC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 00:25 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 954EA9FC ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:18:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:13:35 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: PROPOSED CHANGE 37: Relative Clauses before names X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 501 Lines: 13 John: > > A separate question: Why cannot {.karl.} be used as an independent sumti? > > It is not morphologically ambiguous. How come there must be a preceding > > LA or DOI? > Historically (and still in TLI Loglan) it meant the vocative; TLI Loglan > has no equivalent of "doi". However, bare-name-as-vocative was > eliminated from the language in the 1986-87 time-frame; I don't know why. It would be nice to have CMENE behave in general like KOhA, except in the context of LA, DOI, COI. --- And