Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA05655 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:34:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199511301934.OAA05655@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 1364B944 ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:17:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:13:42 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: buffer vowel X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Nov 30 14:34:54 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Paolo: > > I'll ask a straightforwarder question: which lgs have Lojban's 7 > > vowel system (taking /%/ to be centred on central [I-])? > How about Rumanian? I think the Rumanian system is an answer to both > questions: there is a central middle vowel /@/, written as an "a" with > a brachia (sometimes with a circumflex), and a central top vowel /+/, > written as an "i" with circumflex. The other vowels are /a/, /e/, /i/, > /o/, /u/ (I'm not sure if /E/ and /O/ are also present, but the pairs > /e/ and /E/, and /o/ and /O/ constitute accepted variants of Lojban > "e" and "o", anyway). Do you know whether you can get 7-way minimal pairs (minimal septuples)? Is there some environment where all 7 vowels contrast, and the full brunt of the contrast is borne by vowel quality? [Speaking phonologically.] I have no idea of the answer. --- And