Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tHbvf-0000ZUC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:30 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 8F0195F3 ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:30:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:27:53 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: PROPOSED CHANGE 37: Relative Clauses before names X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 337 Lines: 11 >Historically (and still in TLI Loglan) it meant the vocative; TLI Loglan >has no equivalent of "doi". However, bare-name-as-vocative was >eliminated from the language in the 1986-87 time-frame; I don't know why. > Ambiguity: la noras. djan. na nelci lenu leri cmene cu binxo le remei .i ku'i la noras. doi djan. cu zanru dei lojbab