Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA28491 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:50:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199511230250.VAA28491@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id F2878139 ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:40:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 20:13:40 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: ke'a & xe'u To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Wed Nov 22 21:50:34 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Lojbab: > >> My objection to {duu} is that it is always singleton in extension, > >> so should have sumti rather than selbri status. > >Maybe it would have made more sense to have it in selmaho LU. It would > >also have allowed for more complex propositions. > It would also have allowed for much more grammatical nonsense. What would > "du'u mu" mean: the proposition that "5"??? Is {duu mu} currently ungrammatical then? Anyway, to clarify, the syntax {duu} shd have is that it take a bridi and yield a sumti. (LU takes a word string and yields a sumti.) > If I even half understand this lambda stuff (unlikely, but what the > heck) AND la and.'s concerns over the assignment of xe'u to PA, then I > am inclined to agree with la. and. Wow! I'm delighted by the argument you give, since evidently you do wish to minimize the amount of grammatical meaningless garbage. But I'm still not persuaded that Jorge's xe'u = ke'a proposal is bad, given my lovely prenex-based method of slaying ambiguity. --- And