Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tLVL4-0000ZUC; Fri, 1 Dec 95 15:17 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 2F1B0A8A ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:17:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:36:22 -0800 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: logical matters X-To: lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1573 Lines: 26 Contrary to what xorxes seems to say, McCawley does not end up identifying Russell's descriptions with _le_. He has clearly moved on from Russell's case of exactly one thing with a property to a definite description that picks out one thing with a property when there are several things which actually have the property (Hilbert's epsilon, roughly). In the selecting, this is more like _le_ but is already very different from Russell (FixGx is false if there is more than one G). However, the description McCawley talks about is still singular and still veridical, unlike _le_. To get non- veridicality we have to go to Kaplan's "dthat," which McCawley certainly did not mention in the old edition and not, I think, in the new either. As for plurality, well -- as I have said -- logicians do do that. And's description of the current view about situations shows that Aristotle's system seems to have held up pretty well for another couple of decades on top of its couple of millennia. The terminology has been tightened a bit -- or at least changed -- and perhaps some of the criteria mainly used have changed (it is hard to tell from this brief description but the cyclic/non-cyclic line of my day seems to have been replaced by something about energy use). Still, the pattern of four types remains, with most of the contrasts intact, and -- I bet -- most situations still assigned to the same type, even if for a different reason. Happily, Lojban decided to take the types, not the classification, as its base and so can proceed without serious changes. pc>|83