Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tE104-0000ZTC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:28 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 5948BD07 ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:28:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:09:22 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: rel clause paper X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 639 Lines: 16 fe die xe cusku fa la djan > > Is it legitimate for one to ask for a means of doing what I > > asked about? > Well, with my proposed reading of "me" (or even without it, really) > you can say: > la me la djan. tumclaxu > which means "The one named 'The one named "John" type-of > land-lacker". Suit? Not satisfactory. I think of "Alfred the Great", "Dai Jones the Bread", etc. A relative clause/phrase is part of the name. If I use the name, I'm not claiming that Alfred was great, or that Dai Jones is associated with the bread. Perhpas {la tumclaxu pou la djan}, {la banli pou la alfred}? {la pou la alfred (geu) banli}? --- And