Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id EAA17382 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:57:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199511200957.EAA17382@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 52939887 ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 5:48:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:46:57 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: lambda and "ka" revisited X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Mon Nov 20 04:57:07 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU >* kea and xeu outside NOI or {ka..kei} contexts will yield 100% nonsense > (but be deemed grammatical). Is that right? I can't speak for xe'u, but suspect that it would have meaning. John can answer that one better. There is presently no defined role for ke'a outside of relative clauses, HOWEVER, I CAN think of usages outside of relative clauises that would have a plausible definition consistent with current usage only in relatives. (relative phrases can also use ke'a BTW). For example, one might use "ke'a" in a parenthetical or footnote to refer to that which is being explained. Since any text is possible inside a parenthetical, that assigns a plausible use for any grammatical role of ke'a in the language, thoiugh not in all occurances of that grammar. lojbab