Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA07672 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:50:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199511131850.NAA07672@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id A944790F ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:42:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:13:42 -0800 Reply-To: Dylan Thurston Sender: Lojban list From: Dylan Thurston Subject: Re: TECH: lambda and "ka" revisited X-To: ucleaar X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <55946.9511130638@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk> Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Mon Nov 13 13:50:22 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU la .and. cusku di'e > ... > (iii) Open-ended place structures are objectionable: one can never > be sure whether a sumti is omitted, with understood {zoe}. There > is no way for the speaker to signal that there are no omitted > sumti. Better to have a BAI for supplementary places of this sort: > that way, when the BAI is not there we know the sumti is not there. > (This objection means {jutsi} should be changed.) If I understand the proposal correctly, it's not open-ended; the number of places is just the number of free (omitted) variables in the "ka" bridi. (Or is it? Does it depend on the interpretations of the "zo'e"? In any case, one has an upper bound.) co'e mi'e dilyn.