Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA21204 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:28:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199511211828.NAA21204@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id A342AE2E ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 14:18:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:13:35 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: PROPOSED CHANGE 37: Relative Clauses before names X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Tue Nov 21 13:28:18 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU John: > > A separate question: Why cannot {.karl.} be used as an independent sumti? > > It is not morphologically ambiguous. How come there must be a preceding > > LA or DOI? > Historically (and still in TLI Loglan) it meant the vocative; TLI Loglan > has no equivalent of "doi". However, bare-name-as-vocative was > eliminated from the language in the 1986-87 time-frame; I don't know why. It would be nice to have CMENE behave in general like KOhA, except in the context of LA, DOI, COI. --- And