From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:45:27 2010 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list Date: Fri Dec 8 06:24:21 1995 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ma'i - a standard for standards To: hazel@TURING.CS.STEDWARDS.EDU Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 8 06:24:21 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: The answer specifically on colors is that there was no agreement as to what makes a color defined to be a particular color - whether it was a standard, or a comparison - whether it was subjective or objective. The standard place was used when we had definite reason to believe that the predicate was subjective, and thus that there might be substantial inconsistency among evaluators as to whether a statement was "true" or "false" UNLESS you made reference to a standard. When the standard place is necessary to assign even the most basic meaning needed to evaluate truth, then the standard place is "metaphysically necessary", which is the requirement for inclusion in the place structure. lojbab