Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA29018 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:20:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199512141520.RAA29018@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 8A3BC2FA ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:20:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:18:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Re: JBO: Re: lojban dialectology X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199512140949.EAA21604@cs.columbia.edu> (message from Don Wiggins on Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:48:36 GMT) Content-Length: 1030 Lines: 26 >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:48:36 GMT >From: Don Wiggins >> i la ~mark zvati ma i jibri my fa le nu zgana la'e di'u >.i.uanaisai .i la'o zy. ~mark zy. ki'a mi'e mark. .i mi se casnu .ia .iji'a mi ja'a zgana I won't wrestle with Lojban for this; I'm out of practice... Indeed, I *did* notice "*bebylan" and thought about commenting on it. But I wasn't positive if I'd be in the right this time. I remembered how words like "mlat" had been made permissible cmene since the "la" was preceded by a consonant and thus could not be the start of a new word, since the consonant couldn't fall off. And the same may obtain here, since the "la" here is preceded by "y" which normally cannot be the end of a word unless it's followed by a pause (as with consonants). So the "beby" can't fall off of "?bebylan", so I thought maybe it was permissible, considering CyC to be a consonant cluster for this purpose. What's the real answer? 'Course, in Hebrew, it's "baVEL." ~mark