Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA04130 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 00:42:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199512072242.AAA04130@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 2A1892E5 ; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 23:42:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 17:53:02 -0500 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: TECH: PROPOSED GRAMMAR CHANGE X4: Forethought bridi and X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199512011900.OAA29652@locke.ccil.org> from "Jorge Llambias" at Dec 1, 95 12:40:46 pm Content-Length: 1523 Lines: 47 la xorxes. cusku di'e > Why should there be a > grammatical distinction between bridi and bridi-tail, when there > is no semantic distinction? This is the sort of modification I had > in mind: > > > sentence = [term ...] bridi-tail | prenex sentence > > bridi-tail = bridi-tail-1 > [gihek [stag] KE # bridi-tail /KEhE#/ tail-terms] ... > > bridi-tail-1 = bridi-tail-2 [gihek # bridi-tail-2 tail-terms] ... > > bridi-tail-2 = bridi-tail-3 [gihek [stag] BO # bridi-tail-2 tail-terms] > > bridi-tail-3 = [CU #] selbri tail-terms | gek-sentence tail-terms > > gek-sentence = gek sentence gik sentence After revising this to: > sentence = [term ...[CU #]] bridi-tail | prenex sentence > > bridi-tail = bridi-tail-1 > [gihek [stag] KE # bridi-tail /KEhE#/ tail-terms] ... > > bridi-tail-1 = bridi-tail-2 [gihek # bridi-tail-2 tail-terms] ... > > bridi-tail-2 = bridi-tail-3 [gihek [stag] BO # bridi-tail-2 tail-terms] > > bridi-tail-3 = selbri tail-terms | gek-sentence > > gek-sentence = gek sentence gik sentence tail-terms it yaccs without conflict, and seems pretty good to me. It eliminates the separate machinery of forethought sentence connection and forethough bridi-tail connection, while still allowing for the latter via the rule that a sentence may be a bridi-tail. I have to think more on this, but tentatively I approve X4. I will write up a formal change-control proposal tomorrow. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.