From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Wed Dec 20 18:13:51 1995 Reply-To: ucleaar Date: Wed Dec 20 18:13:51 1995 Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: TECH: PROPOSAL: KUhAhU & KIhAhI X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR Message-ID: I propose two cmavo, {kuau} (in selmao KUhAhU) and its corresponding terminator {kiai} (in selmao KIhAhI). They contain a bridi and yield a sumti. At present one must use LE + duu ... kei. There is no good reason to involve a selbri (duu). The resulting mismatch between syntax and semantics is very offensive. Jorge suggested (in effect) that {kuau} should be in LU. I have not proposed that, because LU ... LIhU contain not just bridi. I realize that Lojban Central will be unswayed by the case for these new cmavo, but when I have to use {duu} I experience a mental nausea so acute that it is almost visceral too. So for my own health I must start using {suau}. coo, mie And