From cowan Wed Dec 20 11:16:21 1995 Subject: Re: TECH HARANGUE: LE/LO From: John Cowan To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu (Lojban List) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:16:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199512192225.RAA07633@locke.ccil.org> from "ucleaar" at Dec 19, 95 09:24:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 743 Status: OR Message-ID: la .and. cusku di'e > If you & John agree that the > identity of the referent of {le} shd always be known to the speaker, > then I guess we can use John's old method (something about Orwat being > a spy? - it had to do with spies, anyway): > > da zou koa krici leduu da brode (gie da broda) Ortcutt, Bernard J. Ortcutt, a pillar of the community, of whom our hero Ralph is glad to assert "Ortcutt is no spy". The man Ralph has seen sneaking around the defense plant, OTOH, Ralph does believe to be a spy. Unbeknownst to Ralph, these men are one and the same. So: Ralph believes that Ortcutt is a spy (transparent) and Ralph believes that Ortcutt is no spy (opaque) -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.