Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id DAA05317 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 03:50:46 +0200 Message-Id: <199512180150.DAA05317@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 17DABBE1 ; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 2:50:45 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 21:05:50 -0500 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Disjunctive compounds (was: left factoring) X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199512172144.QAA19508@locke.ccil.org> from "Jorge Llambias" at Dec 17, 95 04:26:26 pm Content-Length: 974 Lines: 24 la xorxes. cusku di'e > {lei brife ja canre} logically seems to work, too, but I don't find it > very appealing. Maybe it's just that we are not used to such things > in natlangs. Depends on which natlangs. Ivan says in his paper on noun compounds: # There don't seem to be many languages which have disjunctive noun-noun # compounds, in which the set of instances of the complex concept is the # union of the sets of instances of the components, as in # Sanskrit jayaparajaya `victory or defeat' # (Traditionally analysed as a rather unfrequent variety of dvandva compounding) # # but it is quite common for the compound to refer to a superset of this union: # # Mongolian xorxoj soxo `insect' (`worm beetle'), # soxo xorxoj ` ditto' (`beetle worm'); # Kazakh ayaq-tabaq `crockery' (`cup-plate'); # Qabardian dqaz `housefowl' (`hen-goose'). -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.