Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA22908 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:21:11 +0200 Message-Id: <199512130021.CAA22908@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id C069FCD0 ; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 1:21:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 19:20:41 -0500 Reply-To: Jorge Llambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: RET: jeks in descriptions X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, jorge@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1084 Lines: 43 la dn cusku di'e > la kir. cpedu tu'a lu mi nelci lo cukta be fi la lem. .e la borxes. li'u > > I think it literally means "I like books by Lem and Borges together", Right, a book that has both Lem and Borges as authors. Not necessarily together, though. It could be a compilation with works from different authors. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised that a book like that exists, probably some science fiction compilation, since Borges does have a few s.f. stories. > books > separately would be > > .i mi nelci lo cukta befi la lem. be'o .a lo cukta befi la borxes. {.e} instead of {.a} if you want to say that you like at least one from each. > If I remember correctly > > .i .abu .e by. brode > > is the same as > > .i .abu brode .ije by. brode Right. > Though I don't think it is possible to transform > > .i lo broda be .abu .e by. cu brode > > into > > .i lo broda be .abu .e lo broda be by. cu brode That's right, you cannot. Indeed {pa broda be abu e by} is one single object, while {pa broda be abu be'o e pa broda be by} can be two objects. Jorge