Message-Id: <199512111612.SAA17453@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi>
Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:11:33 -0500
Reply-To: Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
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From: Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CPE: la DAOdeiJIN
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la paulos cusku di'e

> If the mails on the Dao De Jin had been written by And, I wouldn=B4t=
>  consider that
> strange :-) But isn=B4t the proper Lojban form of that name "da=B4os"?

I think {daos} is acceptable. {ao} is not a diphthong, so the name has
two syllables: da-os.


la stiv cusku di'e

> A good point...{turni} also conveys the meaning of the chinese "fa" (roughy
> "is governed") better.  Why did you use {seltru} rather than {se turni}?

Since Chinese has one word for it, it seemed better to use a single word,
but that's not very important, {se turni} would be just as good.

> >It still doesn't achieve the compactness of the Chinese phrase, though...
>
> I'm trying to decide between conveying the meaning accuartely or keeping
> closer to the short, simple tone...it's probably more accurate to say
> "governed by the rules of" than just "ruled by", but it makes the tone
> much more technical than the origional

It depends what you want the translation for. If you are interested in
explaining what the original means, you probably will use a long paragraph.
If you want it as some kind of aphorism, I would say it should be as short
and simple as possible.

Jorge