Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA06560 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 13:44:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199512081144.NAA06560@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 53050C26 ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 12:44:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 06:41:43 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH: situation types X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1008 Lines: 20 One brief note. > Duration >(achiev v. the rest) is not that important. I don't see duration as being that much a focus of achievements/point events. It is rather more aspectual - how you look at the event. If you think of it as a "point" between a before and after thant are non-points, then it is a point event. In many theories, the K/T boundary wherein the dinosaurs died out had a duratiion of at least many human lifetimes, but it is still seen as a point event because we don't concern ourselves with ANY substructure. As an event, we don't think of it beginning and ending - it just "happens". That same K/T "achievement" though may come to be looked at under some theories as having a substructure - say a meteor strike, followed by a "nuclear winter" phenomena, in which the event is looked at more as a "process". It is this ability to look at the same event in more than one way that >I< came to see as being its most valuable feature to the language. (In spite of the tomato joke). lojbab