Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tNUr6-0000ZUC; Thu, 7 Dec 95 03:10 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id A8C3BD13 ; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 2:10:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 20:09:29 -0500 Reply-To: Jorge Llambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: a triviality X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, jorge@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 939 Lines: 25 la stiv cusku di'e > could someone please tell me the difference between {le} and {lo}? > they seem to be used somewhat interchangably (though i've never seen > {lo} with the {ku} counterpart) an it's never defined in the lessons > *shrug* {ku} is the terminator for any member of selma'o LE, i.e. for any of {le}, {lo}, {lei}, {loi}, {lo'e}, etc. It is usually elidable. The difference between {le} and {lo}, as I understand it, is this: le broda = each of the broda that I'm talking about. lo broda = at least one of all the broda that there are. Using {le broda} means that you assume that your audience knows or can figure out which one(s) you mean. Using {lo broda} means that you are not giving any indication as to which of all broda satisfies the relationship in question, you are only saying that there is at least one of them that does. (Others view it somewhat differently, giving more importance to veridicality.) Jorge