Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA21597 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:46:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199512121546.RAA21597@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id D6A53988 ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 16:46:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 10:57:38 -0500 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: PLI: aspects of X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199512100536.AAA16419@locke.ccil.org> from "Steven M. Belknap" at Dec 9, 95 11:16:45 pm Content-Length: 737 Lines: 18 la stivn. cusku di'e > To what extent should we worry about relativistic considerations? The tense > operators are very general. In space-time the time dimension has a Sqrt[-1] > factor when you take the sqrt of the sum of the squares of the differences > ofthe time-space coordinates as the distance between events. Aak! No! Lojban list once spent a >year< discussing relativistic spacetime and the so-called "fourth" or "oblivious" tense. Lojban tenses are subjective: they refer to the viewpoint of the speaker, not to "objective" time relationships. (If you like, I can send you about 150K of stuff on the subject.) -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.