From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:46:08 2010 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list Date: Fri Dec 22 03:43:50 1995 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: sera'aku le'ala'ezo PLI mezoigy. not yet gy. X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 22 03:43:50 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: >> > i ki'u ma lu na co'a li'u naku smuni zoi gy no longer gy ? >> >> How about "mi ba'o na'e klama"? "I since am other-than going". > >That's "I'm in the aftermath of non-going" i.e "I am going". >But there is no indication of alreadyness. You might just as >well say "mi ca'o klama". Why would "mi ba'o na'e klama" be any >closer to "I'm already going" than to "I'm still going"? It only >says that I'm going, after having been non-going. I think that is why my version works - it considers already to be "in the aftermath of not-yet-having gone" - the implication being that "not yet" = "pu'o" (on the assumption that the event really will take place), and "already" is just the aftermath of "not yet". lojbab