From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:46:10 2010 Reply-To: IAD@BGEARN.BITNET Sender: Lojban list Date: Wed Dec 27 04:24:14 1995 From: Ivan A Derzhanski Subject: Re: `already' To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:53:58 +0000 from Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 27 04:24:14 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:53:58 +0000 ucleaar said: >ivAn: >> There's a lot of linguistic work on `already' and its cousins `still' >> and `finally' [...]. I think we >> should be able to express such things by means of attitudinals. > >[We mean "discursive", not "attitudinal" - attitudinals are things >like "Wow!", while discursives are things like "frankly" and >"unfortunately" (unless one of those is what indicators are).] I thought discursives were a kind of attitudinals. In fact, I'm not sure which subclass of UI would be best for expressing such things as `longer/ sooner/later than might have been'. In some cases the English adverbs seem to have a sense that is more emotional than anything else; but in general they appear to bear a certain similarity to `only'. (In a way I'd say that `already' and chums are to ZAhO as `only' is to PA.) >Which UIs? That's a good question. I hadn't checked the list when I wrote that, but now I have, and there doesn't seem to be anything appropriate. --Ivan