From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:46:17 2010 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list Date: Sat Dec 23 01:19:55 1995 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: sera'aku le'ala'ezo PLI mezoigy. not yet gy. X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Sat Dec 23 01:19:55 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Message-ID: The norm for pu'o is still that the event occurs. yes it can indeed cover exceptions where the event is prevented from occuring, but we have other cmavo to indicate actuality of an event if there is any doubt implicit in the context. So when necessary, you could say ba'opu'oca'a. But I agree that this is not really what you want if you are shooting for the complement of za'o. Some possibilities include to'eza'o or pu'ojoica'o to convey this sense of starting before the fact. lojbab