Received: from odin.diku.dk (root@odin.diku.dk [130.225.96.221]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA03634 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:24:05 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA08846 for conlang-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:27:57 +0100 Received: from mg1.cdsnet.net (root@mg1.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA08822 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:27:37 +0100 Received: from med-pm1-005.cdsnet.net (med-pm1-005.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.65]) by mg1.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA11822 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 10:49:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 10:49:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199601181849.KAA11822@mg1.cdsnet.net> X-Sender: mrouse@mg1.cdsnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conlang@diku.dk From: mrouse@cdsnet.net (Michael A. Rouse) Subject: CONLANG: New Conlanger Sender: owner-conlang@diku.dk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mrouse@cdsnet.net (Michael A. Rouse) Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 2731 X-From-Space-Date: Sat Jan 20 16:24:50 1996 X-From-Space-Address: owner-conlang@diku.dk I am new to this group, and (after reading the conlang/lojban material) find I have a confession to make: I am guilty of being a "computer nerd," "sci-fi buff," and "interested in logic and semantics" (Ralph Dumain's charge in the LOJB_ESP.TXT file). I wouldn't be on the Infobahn if computers didn't interest me, my first exposure to constructed languages and what I call the "Super-Strong Whorf-Sapir Hypothesis" was Samuel R. Delany's _Babel-17_, and as for the third charge -- well, I'd hardly join the conlang discussion if language construction didn't interest me. I'm writing a SF book (working title _Mental Software_) on my computer about a constructed language designed on ANOTHER computer, and the language has many lojban-like qualities (logic and arbitrary precision), so I have Ralph Dumain's three strikes against me anyway :-) Considering that I wrote the outline and the first two drafts of the book without ever hearing of a conlang other than Esperanto/Ido, Basic English, and Interlingua, the similarities between lojban and lincosha (from lingua cogita, my fractured Latin version of "the language of thought") are striking. Would it be appropriate for me to post my thoughts on "optimal" conlangs in this group, or is there another area where such a discussion would be more appropriate? I don't want to post in the wrong spot, and get a flame from a polyglot ;-) I must warn you that the theoretical structure of lincosha runs for several pages, and I'd need to type up the whole thing from my notes. Assuming that a) I get this book finished and b) I get this book *published*, would it be possible for me to use a smattering of lojban vocabulary in my book? I will make certain that lojban receives credit for it in an "author's note" or afterward, so think of all the free publicity (grin). Finally, a question that *is* appropriate for this discussion: Why not replace the ' character with "h," and replace stress (the kind that invokes the capitalizing rule) with the ' (apostrophe)? Since I have barely started learning about lojban, I know I'll make a mistake, but here goes: Taj Mahal goes to taj my'AL in lojban rather than taj my'hal (the latter uses ' as a signal that the next syllable is stressed). taj my'AL is shorter than taj my'hal, but you must have access to another complete character set (capitals) in order to make this possible. Esthetically, taj my'hal looks better to me. Michael A. Rouse mrouse@cdsnet.net P.S. I use "lojban" rather than "Lojban" because (as I read it) lojban seems to prefer to use lower case with penultimate stress. I am not emulating e.e. cummings.