Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA05180 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 16:43:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199601121443.QAA05180@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 3633BA1E ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 15:43:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:57:05 GMT Reply-To: Don Wiggins Sender: Lojban list From: Don Wiggins Subject: sera'aku le'ala'ezo PLI zoigy. would gy. se fanva fu ma To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 720 Lines: 21 > "I do not think they would have discovered our ambuscade > if we weren't so loud" Yes, this is the one. How do you eliminate the condition so that it is only implied that something did happen which caused the actual discovery of the ambuscade. .i ki'u ma do pilno lo bridi .i pe'i lenu zo pe'i selpli cu zmadu leka drani > (2) .i mi jinvi ledu'u mi spaji gunta se facki ko'a nagi'o mi smaji .i e'u lu pe'i zo'e pu na'e fasnu .inajabo ko'a pu na'e facki lomi'a pajgunta li'u [I suggest "I think that if something did not happen then they would not have discovered our ambuscade."] How can the "zo'e pu na'e fasnu" be removed? Spanish has similiar usage with the conditional and subjunctive tenses. co'omi'e dn.