From pbarreto@unisys.com.br Mon Jan 15 21:34:43 1996 Received: from panther.unisys.com.br (panther.unisys.com.br [200.255.218.10]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA28270 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:34:33 -0500 Received: from atsp11.unisys.com.br (atsp11.unisys.com.br [200.255.218.19]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA28529; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:12:09 -0200 Message-Id: <199601160212.AAA28529@panther.unisys.com.br> X-Sender: pbarreto@pop.unisys.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:08:12 -0300 To: John Cowan From: Paulo Barreto Subject: A little theorem on a forbiden fu'ivla form Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1491 Hello, John. Not long ago I received your response to my comments on the morphology paper. (Sorry, it's not at hand; I did not fully transferred my mail from the old address to this one, so I'll quote it by heart). One question I had made was whether {pra'i} and {spra'i} were considered valid fu'ivla, as at least one of them is 5 letters long (depending on whether you count the apostrophe or not). Your opinion was that they are valid, though you were not quite sure. However, after some thought one can state that {pra'i} is not valid. In fact (that's the "theorem"), no fu'ivla can have the form CCV'V due to slinku'i failure: put any CV cmavo before such a word and you'll get the lujvo-form sequence CVCCV'V, which analyzes into CVC-CV'V. So far I wasn't able to disprove the validity of {spra'i}, or more generally CC...CV'V fu'ivla. I have a further question on fu'ivla morphology. Is it possible that a fu'ivla be stressed on vocalic consonant (as in XRvatska, for instance)? co'o mi'e paulos. P.S. What's your opinion on imposing that two "canonical" fu'ivla (made of rafsi + consonant hyphen + borrowing) differing only in rafsi form (e.g. tricrnaceru and ricrnaceru) have the same meaning? I had already made this question, but you don't seem to have expressed your feelings about that... Paulo S.L.M. Barreto -- Software Analyst *** PGP public key available on known keyservers *** e'osai ko sarji la lojban