Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA29936 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 12:20:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199601111020.MAA29936@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 3BCE1BCB ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 11:20:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:19:20 GMT Reply-To: Don Wiggins Sender: Lojban list From: Don Wiggins Subject: sera'aku mezo stizu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 918 Lines: 24 cu'u la stiv. zoigy. *chair, x1 is a |/stool/seat/bench, a piece or portion of a piece of furniture intended for sitting of material X2 for sitter x3 (person/object/event) /:/ /=/ stizu (tiz) gy. Material can be expressed when required using the modal "ma'e" and a sitter using selbri-to-modal conversion of "fi'o zutse". .i mu'a zoigy. This is a wooden chair I sit on gy. selfanva fulu ti stizu ma'e loi mudri fi'o zutse mi li'u cu'u la stiv. zoigy. X3 place should be for holding/supporting X3 (person/object/event) instead of referring to legs gy. Again, one can use "fi'o lafti". .i mu'a zoigy. That tables holds the cups gy. selfanva fulu ta jubme fi'o lafti loi kabri li'u The objective here is keep gismu as simple as possible without cluttering them with unnecessary places, only the places essential to the bridi have been included and a mechanism exists for extension when needed. co'omi'e dn.