Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA16070 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:50:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199601170450.GAA16070@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 22928F8C ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 5:50:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:47:56 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: TECH QUERY: variant fu'ivla X-To: cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1110 Lines: 23 > So far, the Lojban >community hasn't taken a position on whether or not these are to be >taken as equivalent. > >I favor declaring them equivalent: while this limits the theoretical >size of fu'ivla space, it makes for simplicity: you need not remember >whether "cipnrdodo" or "cpirdodo" is the official word for "dodo". At this point I would favor not taking any position, though we can say that this convention has been proposed. There simply have not been enough fu'ivla proposed to make statements/assumptions about conventions (hey I am wary about lujvo/dikyjvo, and we have a LOT more usages). When you consider that officially the type 3 fu'ivla are kind of short-of-conventional in the first place (since we would presume to make a Type 4 fu'ivla for one that got used enough to warrant it), I am even more reluctant to make official rules. When someone actually writes a bunch of fu'ivla AND place structures for them, then we will have some data to analyze. But my efforts to even get a more complete set of cultural fu'ivla, one of the more obvious needs, continues to be stillborn. lojbab