From cowan Mon Jan 22 10:54:23 1996 Subject: ro broda/ro lo broda From: John Cowan To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu (Lojban List) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:54:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199601220739.CAA18654@locke.ccil.org> from "Gerald Koenig" at Jan 21, 96 04:46:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 843 Message-ID: la .and. cusku di'e > >John has made {re xirma} and {re lo xirma} nonequivalent in either one > >or two ways (they're different with respect to dogbiting behaviour > >("2 men bite 3 dogs" - how many dogs?) and possibly with respect to > >existential import. la djer. cusku di'e > djer: Did I miss something about the installation of this vague change > in an era of five years of no change? Maybe I should go to lojfest. The era of 5 years has not yet begun. I proposed tentatively the restoration of Loglan semantics: "ro broda" means "ro da poi broda" rather than "ro lo broda", and "ro broda/ro da poi broda" and "ro lo broda" are distinct because the former has local scope (only over what follows) whereas the latter has bridi-level scope. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.