Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id DAA07061 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 03:53:20 +0200 Message-Id: <199601130153.DAA07061@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id C27B3F34 ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 2:53:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 17:37:42 -0800 Reply-To: Gerald Koenig Sender: Lojban list From: Gerald Koenig Subject: Re tech:opaque X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1083 Lines: 22 pc> After a couple of weeks with the theoretical logicians, it is a pleasure to get back to practical McCawley. djer> I've been reading a thread on Analytic-at-Brown which deals with worlds, and on the chance this is NOT what you're referring to as the sojourn with theoreticans, I offer to e-mail you a copy if you're interested. The thread seems quite relevent to opacity. pc> I'm not sure whether any of this solves any Lojbanic problems, but it does give us some useful data to consider in working for solutions. pc>|83 djer> Personally, I'm not going to attempt any more solutions to things lojbo until the World of Lojban Central, if such exists, recognizes that there are some foundational problems; and instead of waiting for an earthquake to to reveal them, sets up an Equal Opportunity democratic process to solve them. However I wish you the best, and I think that the thread I mention might offer you some food for thought: It certainly has crystallized some issues for me.