Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA01337 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:24:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199602151724.MAA01337@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 3EDE9369 ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:50:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:47:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Re: loglan rapprochement orthography To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu In-Reply-To: <199602141949.OAA13801@cs.columbia.edu> (message from John Cowan on Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:46:48 -0500) X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 958 X-From-Space-Date: Thu Feb 15 12:31:24 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:46:48 -0500 >From: John Cowan >la .iVAN. cusku di'e >> Whatever it is phonetically, it is structurally not >> a consonant (it can't be one of the {C}s in {CVCCV}, {CCV} and all the >> other formulae), so I'd rather keep it graphically distinct from them >> as well. (This is also an argument against {h} in Roman.) >doi .and., please take note. This is the point we've been trying to make >and (apparently) failing to. Well, "graphically distinct" is in the eye of the beholder. Is "a" really "graphically distinct" from "s"? No more so than any other two letters. Yet one is a consonant and one is not. "r" is sometimes a vowel, so it's not strictly a consonant; do we need to make it "graphically distinct" as well? Those distinctions are dictated by the language and its users, and change as those do, not by how other languages opt to use the same symbols. ~mark