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Date:         Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:24:05 MET
Reply-To: Goran Topic <topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR>
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From: Goran Topic <topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR>
Subject:      Re: PLI: "except"
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> Another related word that I still don't know how to do in Lojban
> is "even":
>
> That is important not only to the Irish.
> (Important to the Irish and to others as well, the unexpected part
> being that it is important to the others.)

.i la'edi'u vajni lo po'onai .ue se gugdrneire

> That is important even to the Irish.
> (Important to the Irish and to others as well, the unexpected part
> being that it is important to the Irish.)

.i la'edi'u vajni lo .ue se gugdrneire ji'a

> "Only" and "except" seem to be more basic, "only" giving the
> only one that does, and "except" the only one that doesn't.

.ie .iku'i mi ca'o krici ledu'u la'ezoi gy. except .gy. na smuni lu
po'onai li'u

> "Not only" and "even" seem to also have an element of unexpectedness
> together with the basic meaning of "in addition to others".
>
> Does anyone have a theory for how to handle those in Lojban?

zo .ue .a zo .ua

co'o mi'e. goran.

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