Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA08665 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:23:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199602101523.RAA08665@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 98A3EBA5 ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 16:23:38 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 10:20:25 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: lojban evolution X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 864 Lines: 18 >> Lojban IS Loglan. > >Is that equative BE, so the sentence is like "Cicero is Tully", >rephrasable as "Loglan is Lojban", [meaning: The two terms denote >the same thing] or is it predicative BE, like in "Gluttony is vice" >[meaning: Lojban belongs to the class of loglans] or is it like >"Clinton is the president" [meaning: it is lojban that is the true >incarnation of the loglan spirit]? Or is it deliberatelly intended >to suggest all these meanings? I am sure the latter, and then some. There was also a clear sense of LLG supplanting JCB as the guiding authority of the project, since we explicitly deposed his authority in the same meeting if I recall. Prior to that, reconciliation was a goal, and compatability with JCB's implementation was a design consideration. Thereafter, the tie is solely back to JCB;s pronouncements before the split. lojbab