Received: from odin.diku.dk (daemon@odin.diku.dk [130.225.96.221]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA06052 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:39:50 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA23878 for conlang-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 03:00:35 +0100 Received: from teal.csn.net (root@teal.csn.net [199.117.27.22]) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA23867 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 03:00:23 +0100 Received: from p11.Boulder-2.dialup.csn.net (cbogart@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by teal.csn.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA07027 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:00:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199602110200.TAA07027@teal.csn.net> X-Sender: chris@netoutfit.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:49:06 -0700 To: conlang@diku.dk From: cbogart@quetzal.com (Chris Bogart) Subject: Re: CONLANG: "real" languages X-Mailer: Sender: owner-conlang@diku.dk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cbogart@quetzal.com (Chris Bogart) Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 771 X-From-Space-Date: Sat Feb 10 21:39:54 1996 X-From-Space-Address: owner-conlang@diku.dk Edmundo cusku di'e: >Also, if a monolingual Turkish speaker (say) learns Glosa (say) and is >later able to communicate in Glosa with an English speaker, this >doesn't prove that Glosa isn't just coded English: the Turkish speaker >may have learnt English through Glosa. Although being coded English doesn't necessarily rule out something as being a real language. That may rule it out as being interesting by some standard, but I think if two people can communicate ideas in some manner, then that manner is a language. If it happens to be a code for another language, then it's a dialect of that language, but it's still a language. Otherwise we'd have to rule out Lojban as a language (it's a code for TLI Loglan), and Ido as a mere code for Esperanto.