Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA22045 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:27:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199602241527.KAA22045@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 9FD13B2E ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 9:47:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:21:26 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: tanru gerna srera X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 651 X-From-Space-Date: Mon Feb 26 10:34:40 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - Scot to me: > >I don't think {broda brode} entails {brode}. > I'm with you that {broda brode} need not entail {brode} Goran [kie doi xorvo] refers me to the following refgrammar stuff, which can be read as indicating that {broda brode} does entail {brode}. | In general, however, the meaning of a tanru is determined by the | literal meaning of its components, and not by any connotations or | figurative meanings (sutra tavla - "fast-talker" thus would not | necessarily imply any trickery or deception, and a "jikca toldi" | - "social butterfly" must always an insect with large | brightly-colored wings, of the family lepidoptera). coo, mie and