Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA06340 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:35:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199602141835.UAA06340@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 14815E46 ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:35:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:37:38 -0300 Reply-To: "Jorge J. Llambias" Sender: Lojban list From: "Jorge J. Llambias" Subject: Re: PLI: "except" X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1089 Lines: 118 la kris cusku di'e >How about a new lujvo for "only", like {pavgri} (from pamei girzu) or >{pavykai} or something, with the structure "x1 is the only thing with >quality (ka) x2". I think that such a lujvo is useful, but it would not be as versatile as {po'o}. Using a lujvo places a lot more constraints on word order. > la djan. pavgri leka ko'a krici ledu'u ke'akau klama > John's the only one who has the quality that she believes > that he goes. > >(That's not right, is it? -- I need the new lambda variable, which of course >I za'onu'o put in my online dictionary. That, minus {kau}, is how I would say it. > You use kau with du'u, ke'a with >POI, and the new PA thingy with ka; right?) Yes, but you can also use kau with ka, with kau's meaning of course, (and I use ke'a with ka, rather than the new thingy). For example: la djan zmadu la meris le ka ke'a nanca makau John exceeds Mary in how old they are. la djan pavgri le ka ke'a nanca makau John is the only one in how old he is. (John is the only one of his age.) Jorge