Received: from xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (xiron.pc.Helsinki.FI [128.214.94.50]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA27696 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:24:12 -0500 Received: (from veion@localhost) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA06805; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:50:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:50:16 +0200 (EET) From: Veijo Vilva To: Logical Language Group cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, cowan@ccil.org, pcliffje@crl.com Subject: Re: resolution of open Lojban issues - limited distributiuon message In-Reply-To: <199602251438.JAA19889@access4.digex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1433 X-From-Space-Date: Mon Feb 26 10:37:19 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - > >term_81 : sumti_90 > > | modifier_82 > > | GEK_807 term_81 links_161 > > GIK_816 term_81 links_161 BO_508 > > | NA_KU_810 > > ; > > > >The forethought termset is included twice, once without and once > >with a terminator > > I don't think this one is acceptable, since it means that BO is a terminator > and not a link. You could have all sumti in a sentence separates by BO > if they happen to be GEKked sumti, and you can have a GEKked sumti followed > by BO CU before the selbri, or have BO at the end of the sentence. That > is counter to all other uses of BO. Really, you just want an elidable > terminator to replace the BO in term_81, and I think your term_81a goes away. Agreed. > But this still leaves the question unanswered regarding JOIK and other > connections that are permitted by NUhI, but are not defined under GEKs > If we use a terminator, we can handle the JOIKs in forethought _outside_ tanru linkargs, but the only way of doing it inside is to use something else instead of BEI to link the terms. The only way to avoid a terminator is to do the glueing somewhere below sumti_C_93, which restricts the glued terms to being rather simple sumti. This would also require a new cmavo. > lojbab > Veijo