From - Tue Feb 27 12:17:46 1996 Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA13274 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 07:00:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199602271200.HAA13274@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id A9C84C00 ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 6:24:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 06:21:55 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: xelfanva and comments X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 3143 Lojbab doing something in Lojban - I think I'll faint .ue.oiro'aro'ero'o >From: Chris Bogart >Subject: xelfanva and comments > >.i dy. troci co basna le kamtatpi joi kamfengu morna lo vlile sfetai >.e lo xankygau skari gi'e frilygau lenu >ze'eba sepli fa le litru le ly. bakfu ja se prami kei .e lenu cfipu >le litru leka da simlu farsni fi lei canko .a >lei darno ke dadne'ota'u sorcu .a le cabra se zvati be >la tarcrursamainor bei vi le nicte tsani .i va'o lenu cumki >kei troci co jarco le djacu tubnu ki'u lenu se pilno gi'e troci ^ku > co mipri le li'avro ki'u ja'o na se pilno > >They have sought to highlight the tiredness and crossness motif with >brutal shapes and nerve-jangling colors, to make effortless the business >of separating the traveler forever from his or her luggage or loved >ones, to confuse the traveler with arrows that appear to point at the >windows, distant tie racks, or the current position of Ursa Minor in the >night sky, and wherever possible to expose the plumbing on the grounds >that it is functional, and conceal the location of the departure gates, >presumably on the grounds that they are not. I think you just missed a way to convey the complexity and the parallelism: termsets. To be lazy, I will largely stick with your word choices rather than devise my own tanru. I am also using setese to reverse x2 and x3 of zukte to parallel the author's order. I could have used fe/fi, or simply have left things in the natural Lojban place structure order. .i dy setese zukte nu'i leka tatpi joi fengu kei morna ku tu'a loi jursa sfetai .e lo xankygau skari nu'u .enu'i leka frili falenu ze'eba sepli fa le litru le ly. bakfu ja se prami nu'u .enu'i leka ly. cfipu ku tu'a lenu lei farsni cu simlu loka farsni fi lei canko .a lei darno ke dadne'ota'u sorcu .a le ca selzvati be la tarcrursaminor bei vi le nicte tsani nu'u .enu'i capiroroi lenu le teno'a cu cumki ku zo'e lenu jarco lei djacu tubnu ki'u leka ri terpli ku gi'e ja'o tolja'o le li'avro ki'u lenu ri nalterpli (i { <[se (te {se zukte})] [(nu'i { VAU } kei) morna] ku> } nu'u e {nu'i <[( fa {le litru KU}) (le { } KU)] VAU>} KEI) KU] > VAU}) KEI] KU> nu'u e KEI} ku) ( tu'a {le KU}) a (le {ca }) BE'O]>} KU)]> VAU}) KEI] KU> VAU})] KEI> KU} LU'U)] nu'u e [({ KU} cu {cumki VAU}) KEI] ku>} zo'e) (le {nu <[jarco ({ } KEI) ku]>} VAU)] [gi'e ja'o] [tolja'o ({ } KEI) KU]>} VAU)] VAU> KEI} KU)] NU'U> NU'U} NU'U) VAU]>})