From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Sun Feb 4 23:57:55 1996 Received: from vms.dc.lsoft.com (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id XAA27474 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:57:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199602050457.XAA27474@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by vms.dc.lsoft.com (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id C7DF37D2 ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:27:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:20:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Steven M. Belknap" Sender: Lojban list From: "Steven M. Belknap" Subject: except To: John Cowan Status: OR X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1132 coi la xorxes Good to see you posting again. Hope you will return to your previous massive output. Jorge: > >"Only" and "except" seem to be more basic, "only" giving the >only one that does, and "except" the only one that doesn't. >"Not only" and "even" seem to also have an element of unexpectedness >together with the basic meaning of "in addition to others". > >Does anyone have a theory for how to handle those in Lojban? Could we use and ? da na [vector] [scalar] <=> "only" da [vector] na [scalar] <=> "except" da [vector] na [scalar] <=> "not only" Can't quite get how these are supposed to work, but they seem kind of like NAND and NOR gates. I'm not sure if this allows us to work at the two levels of claims that we need to say these things. We could express the surprise element of "even" with an attitudinal, no? cohomihe .la stivn Steven M. Belknap, M.D. Assistant Professor of Clinical Pharmacology and Medicine University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria email: sbelknap@uic.edu Voice: 309/671-3403 Fax: 309/671-8413