Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA28061 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:57:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199602131957.OAA28061@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 610446D1 ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:23:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:14:43 -0700 Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: PLI: "except" X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet To: John Cowan Status: O X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1210 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Feb 14 12:52:06 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - > ko'a krici le du'u la djan po'okau klama > She believes that only John goes. > > ko'a krici le du'u la djan po'o klama > Only John is such that she believes that he goes. > >But since people have turned down my {po'onai} for "except", I still >don't know how to handle that one. How about a new lujvo for "only", like {pavgri} (from pamei girzu) or {pavykai} or something, with the structure "x1 is the only thing with quality (ka) x2". ko'a krici ledu'u la djan. pavgri leka klama She believes that John is a singleton-of-things-sharing-the-quality-of going or just ko'a krici ledu'u la djan. klama pavgri She believes that John is a goer type of only-thing Your second sentence could be: la djan. pavgri leka ko'a krici ledu'u ke'akau klama John's the only one who has the quality that she believes that he goes. (That's not right, is it? -- I need the new lambda variable, which of course I za'onu'o put in my online dictionary. You use kau with du'u, ke'a with POI, and the new PA thingy with ka; right?) ____ Chris Bogart \ / http://www.quetzal.com Boulder, CO \/ cbogart@quetzal.com Fuck Censorship!